• Antique Ww Greener Shotguns
• Antique Ww Greener Shotguns

Griffin & Howe Serial Number Ranges 1930-1967; Greener, WW. Mossberg did not put serial numbers on most long guns until 1968 (GCA 1968 required them).

I can't quite make out what the choke markings are. Sir Joseph Whitworth steel was the best you could get. An F4 was a medium priced gun at 35/40 gns., and is the Third System of Grading from 1893-1903. Your serial number dates it to 1900, and there were a total of 919 guns made that year. The dent should be easy enough to fix and I'm sure it will not hurt anything, but the barrels wall thickness should be checked even if it didn't have the dent.

Antique Ww Greener Shotguns

Fine Cased Engraved W. Greener Double Barrel Hammer Damascus Shotgun with Accessories. Days to Our Next Auction. September 9 - 1. Premiere Firearms Auction. Mar 16, 2013  Anyone familiar with Greener shotguns? Sign in to follow this. You have an unusual W W Greener shotgun serial number 30492.

That was largely because I really have not enough knowledge about shotguns to contribute but only a wealth of questions. I have tried to read as many topics as I can on this forum to try and learn but frankly while all of it has been absorbing quite a bit of it is beyond me. Any way now I have joined up I would be very grateful for any information and light on my questions regarding the W W Greener 12 gauge shotgun detailed below. The gun is a 12 gauge W W Greener non ejector shotgun in F4 grade. That is the first question. Just what is an F4 grade?

Your serial number dates it to 1900, and there were a total of 919 guns made that year. The dent should be easy enough to fix and I'm sure it will not hurt anything, but the barrels wall thickness should be checked even if it didn't have the dent.

The system of choke boring that he pioneered was so successful that it was later adopted by other manufacturers and hence, some authorities give him the credit for inventing the concept. In December 1874, the first mention of Greener's choke bore appeared in an article by J.H. Walsh, the Editor of Field magazine. The article mentioned the extraordinary shot pattern that the Greener shotgun could produce. The next issue came with an advertisement from W.W. Greener, stating that the firm would guarantee that their new guns would shoot a closer pattern than any other manufacturer.

It is a nominal 12-bore with tight bores (hence the 13 stamp). Chambers are 2 1/2'. This is a nice quality, well made gun.

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First, the Mk. III chamber and Mk. III cartridge were bottlenecked, making the tape-wrapping work-around much more difficult.

Serial numbers are not always in chronological sequences and several different guns may have the same serial number! Also to provide a reasonable assurance that it is not a forgery since these do exist. Examples of some of the views required:- ​ Photos may be sent via e-mail to; or by CD, sent to the registered office address below.

Greener company) and produced his first breechloader in 1864. When William Greener died in 1869, the two companies were amalgamated together as the W.W. Greener Company, and carried on by William Wellington Greener. William Wellington Greener was responsible for several innovations, as described in the sections below, and it was on the strength of his inventions that the company became famous. Greener, the company established offices in Birmingham, London,, and.

Greener, William Wellington, The Gun and Its Development, Ninth Edition, Bonanza Books NY, 1910 Greener, Graham N., The Greener Story, Quiller Press, 2000 See also [ ] • References [ ].

The barrel below is Improved Cylinder choked, and has the same serial number as the gun and the full-choke barrel. Below that, is my greener EG police gun The martini action used for this series of shotguns is solid and generally very reliable. This one had a slight fault with the firing pin. Occasionally it would jam causing a mis-fire. The martini action can be a bit tricky to strip and re-assemble if you've not done it before, so here are a few notes and pictures to help you out. These notes are primarily for the GP, but the EG and Police Gun have the same type of action so these instructions apply to them too. To strip, clean and re-build the action Pull the lever down to open the action, Make sure the gun is empty!

Is it possible to date it from this? The barrels are inscribed with ' W W Greener 68 haymarket london & St.

William Wellington Greener was succeeded by two of his sons, Harry Greener and Charles Greener. Leyton Greener, Harry's son and fourth generation took over as Chairman in 1951 and today the company has a fifth generation, Graham Greener, as one of its directors. Production [ ] Production of Greener weapons started in 1829, when W. Greener began manufacturing his muzzleloaders.

Thanks again All the best Skeeterbd #275957 - 04/23/12 02:54 AM Re: W W Greener (pics and questions) [] Sidelock Registered: 10/09/03 Posts: 609 Loc: New Zealand. Nice gun,I have grown very fond of the Facile Princeps action. I believe the Elephant trade mark has been around almost as long as the WW Greener firm.I don't think anything has ever surfaced to prove a connection with a circus Elephant being shot however. Did you perhaps say 'gosh,how unfortunate'or some such when he dropped the barrels? Its only BP proved. I would get them nitro proved.They should pass with flying colours.

A very warm hello from north of the Bay of Bengal. This is my first post although I have been a spider on the wall for some time. Retail management software.

At the time of manufacture, it embodied all Greener’s ideas of how a breech-loader should be made. Strength, weight, balance, proportion and quality of materials and craftsmanship were all matters on which Greener wrote passionately and his guns reflected his wonderful attention to detail and pragmatic engineering considerations. LOCATED IN USA. Details • Maker • Stock Number CA72 • Type Hammer Guns • Gauge 12 • Weight Stock • Grip Straight Hand • Length to centre • Length to heel • Length to toe Forend • Catch Deeley & Edge • Ejectors None Barrels • Type Damascus • Length 30' • Rib • Chambers 2 3/4' • Choke Right: Left: 1/4 • Bores Right: 1/2 • Serial Number 43010.

Trigger group. Remove the small screw holding the trigger spring in place, and remove the spring.

The Greener Story - Limited Edition A few Limited Edition copies are available with leather binding and marbled front and back covers is bound to order so delivery takes between 6 to 8 weeks. Clients have a choice of binding in red, green, blue or brown.

Recently though, the company was asked to manufacture another model and hence, the Humane Killer Mk II was introduced. This new gun fires a round. Choke bores [ ] The introduction of choke bores was largely responsible for the fame of the W.W. Greener name. The invention of choke boring is usually attributed to American gunsmiths.

44,000 of these went to Egypt (serial numbers 1001 through 45000), and the subsequent 15,846 went to colonial police forces and prison services in such far-flung places as the Bahamas, Bechuanaland, British Guiana, Brunei, Ceylon, Cyprus, Fiji, Ghana, Grenada, Hong Kong, Jamaica, Kenya, Malaya, Nigeria, Northern Rhodesia, Nyasaland, Penang, the Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somaliland, Southern Rhodesia, Sudan, Tanganyika, Tanzania, Turks & Caicos, Uganda, Zambia, and Zanzibar.

See picture below. Next, place the lever in position over the tumbler, lift the front leg of the tumbler to align the holes in it, the lever, and the body. Then pin it into position using a punch, pin, or as shown below, with a turnscrew. Fitting the trigger group is next, and you'll need to be careful not to loose alignment of the tumbler when you do this. Gently remove the pin or whatever you've used to align the lever and tumbler. Holding the trigger back, slot the rear lugs of the trigger housing into the gap between the lever and the action- body.

The results of these trials were responsible for making the W.W. Greener name famous. Fake Greener guns [ ] During the 1880s, as the company became well known, several small manufacturers in and attempted to manufacture copies of Greener weapons. In several cases, the name was misleadingly similar: Greenen, Horace Greener, Albert Greener, A. Greener, W.H. Greener, A.H. Are several examples of names of spurious weapons.

The first known patents for choke boring were granted to a Mr., an American inventor and gunsmith, (, Improvement In Revolving Fire-Arms, April 10, 1866; and, Improvements In Detachable Muzzle For Shot-Guns, dated July 14, 1868.) This was followed by a patent claim in London by Mr. Pape, an English Gun maker, whose patent application was six weeks too late to the 1866 Roper patent. Long, in his book 'American Wildfowling', credits a Mr. Jeremiah Smith of Southfield,, as the gunsmith who first discovered the concept, as far back as 1827. While American gunsmiths were the pioneers of the choke boring system, they had not really progressed beyond the elementary stage and their guns would lead, throw irregular patterns and not shoot straight.

I'm sorry for the quality of the pics but they were taken in my local gunsmiths shop and the lighting ws not the best. If you need any more photos I'll try and gt them tomorrow. There is one further fundamental problem with the gun.

Otherwise the barrels are as new and the action is fine. It has been around in my family for some time and came to me as a gift from a senior cousin although I'm sure it wasn't new when he got it. When you say use it with appropriate cartridges, would Eley Grand Prix 1 1/8oz loads be alright or is this gun for BP only.

A picture directly below the text of a checkered stock model is titled The Greener GP Mk I You should be able to look at the side of the action and see what it says to determine if you have GP or a police gun. The date that the gun was sent to British Proof Test can be found out. Look on the side of the barrel and there will be a code. It will have been so marked within a few weeks, certainly the same year, it was finished.

Description A strong, 30″ barreled hammer gun by Greener, with bar action locks, plenty of original finish and fully serviced. Nicely shaped hammers and Greener ‘wedge-fast’ third grip. This is a classic Greener hammer gun as advocated in style by Greener in ‘The Gun and its Development’.

Just what is an F4 grade? The serial number is 48914.

Antique Ww Greener Shotguns

These can be found with and without the circlips.Circlips was an abomination added by Webley's when they took over the manufacture of the guns in 1965. MK I was a police gun in 13 bore MK II was a police gun in special 14 bore-restricted chamber MKIII was a police gun with a three prong striker. Now while researching this I came across this bit of info on the GP. GP is is for Gaffer or General purpose shotgun. According to Greeners book the exact number of GP shotguns made is impossible to be determined as the serial numbers of these shotguns were not recorded untill 1968. If your gun is a Police gun then the serial number look up I did for you is correct. If your gun is a GP then it's not possible to determine the date made by serial number.

Two models of GP are referenced. Standard model has no checkering and a barrel band. The second model had a better finish, checkering and looked more like a sporting weapon, The Greener Story by Graham Greener has a lot more on this gun and other Greener arms. The book is a bit spendy but I have found it quite useful in my Martini hobby. There are contradictions in the book. The text makes no mention of a MK designation in GP's. It refers to the checkerd version as Model number 2.