• St Dupont Gold Lighter Serial Numbers

Hi, zeteibao: Did you ever hear from Dupont about the serial number of that Fidelio FP? There is one for sale on eBay even as I write (#22), and the seller even sent me personally a picture of the serial number on the pen's clip. The photograph is not good enough for me to decipher what that number is, but I do notice that it's engraved not at the top of the clip but at the bottom! Should I suspect this pen is a fake? The asking price seems to be a bit low; it's USD$149.

This is FAKE duponts. You can go the eBay and check them out AUTHENTIC DUPONT: has Serial number marked at a different time as the markings in (b). You can see the font used is different, the spacing between letters of the serial is about the size of 2 serial letters putting together.

Nov 27, 2013  The ST Dupont models are copied widely, especially the Ligne 2. Some fakes are very convincing and need close scrutiny, but there are easy to spot signs to look out for.

Actually lots of the fakes are quite hefty and good quality lighters. They also generally have correct markings such as 'Made in France' or whatever (counterfeiters can read too). The only true way to know that I'm aware of is this: The serial number on a real Dupont lighter is hand stamped, number by number and so the numbers will not be perfectly aligned.

Where did you get it from? It should obviously be made of genuine materials (silver, black chinese laquer, etc.).

Especially if you bought it on ebay. Actually lots of the fakes are quite hefty and good quality lighters. They also generally have correct markings such as 'Made in France' or whatever (counterfeiters can read too). The only true way to know that I'm aware of is this: The serial number on a real Dupont lighter is hand stamped, number by number and so the numbers will not be perfectly aligned. That is, each number will be slightly out of line with the others (or at least some of them will be). Most fakes are machine made and so the numbers/letters are perfectly spaced and aligned as if done by machine.

I broke the valve on one of mine that way after successfully refueling it for over a year. I was traveling a lot, and had a hard time finding Dupont fuel cartridges, so I got in the practice of using whatever butane I could find. Don't do this. Even if you've got practice at it, you'll probably break your lighter eventually and they're expensive to fix. There are metal screw-in adapters available, which will work just fine, too. Again, these are coded as to the type of lighter indicated by the color under the fill cap. So, once you have either a metal adapter or a Dupont cartridge that fits your lighter, remove the fill cap, lightly press down on the valve stem to release any remaining gas and air which may have leaked in, and then firmly screw in either the gas cartridge or the adapter.

No yeah, obviously there are good fakes out there. All of the fakes I have seen I have been able to tell, even the better ones. But then again, I was comparing it, rather then looking at it blindly.

When refueling, it's also a good time to check your flint. Running a flint too short can result in pushing the flint ram against the striker and cutting a groove in the flint ram. It'll still work after you've damaged the ram in that way, but it's a preventable bit of damage and really annoying should you accidentally do so.

I've personally handled 4 ligne 1 lighters and all of them had the automatic shutoff, although it was somewhat busted on one of them, only shutting off if you hold down the flint chamber release button, likely just from wear / age, but that lighter otherwise functions fine so it wasn't worth it to repair it.

The inside of the cap will be color coded red, gold, blue, or green. Use a Dupont refill cartridge of the corresponding color. You can refuel a Dupont lighter using a steady hand and a regular butane cannister, but I don't recommend it. I broke the valve on one of mine that way after successfully refueling it for over a year. I was traveling a lot, and had a hard time finding Dupont fuel cartridges, so I got in the practice of using whatever butane I could find.

My guess is that they'd end up sending you a solid-patterned fake ligne 2 or something that doesn't entirely resemble a ligne 1. I'd be curious if anyone has any experiences with fake ligne 1s. Starting out? Ligne 1's are generally cheap on ebay, and ligne 1 small's are fairly reliable lighters, and make a good starter lighter. Ligne 1 large hold the most fuel out of any dupont pocket lighter, and are one of my favorites, but because they can often be very old (even models with the newer style flame valve could be over 30 years old now), and their red refill valve tends to go before the yellow valve of the ligne 1 small, they often need repairs. At $65 + shipping for a full repair (in the USA), keep this in mind when bidding on a ligne 1 lighter, especially a ligne 1 large. My ligne 2 I bought new-old-stock, so it was working perfectly when I received it.

Free classical downloads mp3. You can find often find new-old-stock or like-new in the $350-500 range. If you see a like-new Ligne 2 for less than $300, something is probably not right.

It feels pretty hefty weight-wise. It certainly is a well made piece. I have an acid gold testing kit but I'm afraid to put any directly on the surface and risk any damage. This forum has been very responsive and helpful. Thanks to all very much. I would be willing to bet it is only plated and not solid. The Ligne 1 editions are the entry level into the ST Dupont lighter line up.

Lovely lighter! There are a bevy of S.T Dupont lighter fakes out there.

Also you can notice the color difference, though my camera isn't perfect when representing true color. All pictures the box to the left is genuine Counterfeit Line 2 lighters are heavier then real ones. MOST IMPORTANT, SURE SIGN! If there is no paint underneath the Cap for the refill valve, its almost definitely fake, though its possible to be a replacement with no color dot. All Line 2 Lighters have a yellow paint dot underneath the cap of the refill valve representing to use the gold Dupont Butane refill can (see picture below). If it comes with a brass butane adapter (unless it screws in) its probably Counterfeit.

Bottom screw caps: Fakes cap edge is more sharp. Authentic cap edge is much smoother.

There are metal screw-in adapters available, which will work just fine, too. Again, these are coded as to the type of lighter indicated by the color under the fill cap.

Anything with FK in the serial number is fake, as well as lighters with the serial number 06D08A8 or similar (a couple letters/numbers swapped but otherwise the same). Serial numbers are generally 6 or 7 digits long but never longer and should end with a number. Pricing Estimates All estimates are USD and are for reference purpose only. These should not be used as actual pricing guidelines, but rather as minimum prices to use when avoiding fakes. Ligne 1 Ligne 1's are often sold between $50 and $250 used for most common models, depending on condition. New old stock can often be found for $200-400 range.

This is a general buyers guide, describing not only counterfeits, but things to look out for in general. There's been numerous guides out there to fakes and the best way I think is to look around for some pictures of fakes and compare them side-by-side.

I came here for help because i thought it was a good start. Absolutely no reason for everyone to jump down my throat with stupid ass quotes and pictures of signs and all this other b.s. If u don't like my post don't respond. Are you the guy that started cigarsmokers.com??

Thanks for that. I can't really tell from the pics, but is this a gold lighter?

If we were to mess with you or give you valid information - would you know the difference?think about it. N8NOE' wrote in message > Anyone know what EXACTLY What to look for on the Dupont lighters to be > sure there Original?

That is, each number will be slightly out of line with the others (or at least some of them will be). Most fakes are machine made and so the numbers/letters are perfectly spaced and aligned as if done by machine.

This is a short guide on how to quickly determine if your S.T. Dupont Linge (Line) 2 Lighter is authentic. These are the lighters most 'faked' on Ebay.

And since it's a combo laquer and gold (I am assuming gold) and not full gold, it's weight in gold value is decreased. It also looks as if it has been used pretty well. Thanks, everyone for your interest. The lighter is gold in color with black inlay but It isn't marked with any metal content such as K (karat). I'm assuming it is plated if any real gold at all. You think the gold parts could be solid even though it isn't marked? I've seen some that were real gold but they were marked at the bottom of one of the narrow sides.

I don't know if it works or not as I dont have fuel. I does also need a flint. I figured out how to open the flint chamber but I don't have a flint either. Any way to test it without fuel? Just curious what you mean $-wise by 'low' resale?

Fake and original Usually it is not difficult to recognize the fake (upper picture)from original Dupont. Words LAQUE DE CHINE are quite misleading on the lighter that is all made of metal. The quality and readability of the square mark and all the text is incomparable. The serial number, - each letter and number of the original is printed separately, hence the distance from the lower edge and the position of each letter and number is a bit different, also the distances between the letters and numbers are different.

Top instructions (yellowish) are genuine warranty card on the left is genuine, its not as dark as the fake Its also possible to place a fake ST Dupont lighter, in a genuine box. I have seen it done several times on Ebay. The insert in the gift boxes have sharply raised angled edges, genuine boxes have only very slightly raised edges, almost hard to notice in most pictures.

First you need to identify which type of fuel cartridge you need. You can determine this by looking inside the cap you screwed off to expose the fill valve. The inside of the cap will be color coded red, gold, blue, or green. Use a Dupont refill cartridge of the corresponding color. You can refuel a Dupont lighter using a steady hand and a regular butane cannister, but I don't recommend it.

Damaged/heavily used ones can sell for extremely cheap sometimes - $30 - 50. Note that there's a few generations of Ligne 1's, the oldest have a slot on the fuel cap and a older style flame adjuster valve. Old bottom w/slotted fuel valve oldbottom.jpg (10.72 KiB) Viewed 101586 times These are pretty common and generally aren't worth as much due to their age and older mechanism. These lighters cannot use the double flame and/or pipe fuel nozzles that the later Ligne 1's and ligne 2's can accept. These are probably the cheapest of all used dupont lighters, and you can get one of these for less than $100 easily, regardless of the pattern and size. Some of the ones with heavier gold plating might be worth more, but the later heavy-gold-plated models are still more desirable yet.

The newer lighters with the slot generally have newer markings, and tend to use one of the heavier platings, like this one. New lighter with heavy plating and old-style slot. Newoldbottom.jpg (16.25 KiB) Viewed 101586 times Ligne 2 Used Ligne 2's and Gatsby's can range anywhere between $150-350 used for most common models. I have seen a few in bad condition sell for as little as $80, generally worn silver plated models in undesirable/outdated patterns, or badly cracked lacquer, but this is somewhat uncommon.

ST Dupont may have a record of all the lighters they've produced. Ligne 1, 2 and ' D ', Gatsby, Urban, models have hand-stamped serial numbers, not machined. They are irregular and not perfectly aligned. First you need to identify which type of fuel cartridge you need. You can determine this by looking inside the cap you screwed off to expose the fill valve.

They also generally have correct markings such as 'Made in France' or whatever (counterfeiters can read too). The only true way to know that I'm aware of is this: The serial number on a real Dupont lighter is hand stamped, number by number and so the numbers will not be perfectly aligned. That is, each number will be slightly out of line with the others (or at least some of them will be). Most fakes are machine made and so the numbers/letters are perfectly spaced and aligned as if done by machine. Click to expand.

Vintage.JPG (16.4 KiB) Viewed 101876 times This isn't an entirely reliable way to tell unless the picture shows that portion of the lighter clearly. On some real ligne 2's it looks like it's slanting back up if the photo is at a slight angle, but they should taper downward and stay relatively the same size until the end. They will not get any higher and if you notice the ridges getting higher towards the hinge side it's probably fake.

The tell-tale sign is the lettering on bottom but I've noticed that on a lot of fake ligne 2's, the ridging on the top of the flint cover is almost 'u' shaped in the middle, kind of like a ligne 1's, but to a lesser extent. A real L2 is always a downward slant and never slants back up again. Older ones had a shorter slant. I've been able to use this method of determining fakes without having to actually see the bottom of a lighter, which is useful if you're buying online Visual Cues.

It should have all of the stamps and trade marks on the bottom. It should accept the genuine refills tubes. Check under the screw in cover on the bottom and sse if there is a color present. This will indicate which refill it accepts. The ping, depending on age and condition should sound clear and true.

St Dupont Gold Lighter Serial Numbers

This is a short guide on how to quickly determine if your S.T. Dupont Linge (Line) 2 Lighter is authentic. These are the lighters most 'faked' on Ebay.

Used Ligne 1 lighters are fairly abundant and not really worth much on the open market, but it is probably worth more than what you paid for it. Just for the record though: The font stamp under the lighter is not what I am used to seeing on any Dupont I have ever come into contact with. The script S T Dupont looks way off to my eye. If you contact ST Dupont and give them the serial number on the bottom, they can tell you without question if it is real or not. And yes, if theres a real ST Dupont anything, theres fakes out there as well including the Ligne 1.

I came here for help because i thought it was a good start. Absolutely no reason for everyone to jump down my throat with stupid ass quotes and pictures of signs and all this other b.s.

The insert in the gift boxes have sharply raised angled edges, genuine boxes have only very slightly raised edges, almost hard to notice in most pictures. Also you can notice the color difference, though my camera isn't perfect when representing true color. All pictures the box to the left is genuine Counterfeit Line 2 lighters are heavier then real ones. MOST IMPORTANT, SURE SIGN! If there is no paint underneath the Cap for the refill valve, its almost definitely fake, though its possible to be a replacement with no color dot.

I've been buying and selling them for a while & I don't know where you can look up the serial numbers, if at all. It would be very useful but on the other hand, if it were easily accessible, there's nothing to stop the determined faker from copying e.g. Ligne 2 models & using genuine corresponding serial numbers on them.

I have one 'Maybe' coming from a Friend and just > looking to be sure it's the REAL DEAL? I know people collect these > things, but I'm going to use it! I Also hear of 'PING'? I have used a > Savilelli for some time, and I'm told it's the same basic Design, this > is the Best I know so far. I hear there are a LOT of fakes, so HELP!

If it says ' laque de chine ' it stands to reason the item should have some Chinese lacquer on it and not be plain gold or silver. If you do a search for Dupont replica sites, many examples of fakes can be found. Some imitate limited edition items, others don't resemble any Dupont ever made. Any fake sent to ST Dupont for service is confiscated. Very good site for reference is Dupontcollector.com.

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Click to expand. Actually lots of the fakes are quite hefty and good quality lighters. They also generally have correct markings such as 'Made in France' or whatever (counterfeiters can read too).

If so, I am going to go out on a limb and say it's real based on a few things: 1. The stamping of the letters is a bit crooked as it should be for a vintage Linge 1. Vintage Ligne 1 Dupont's are rarely if ever faked 3. I have never seen a slotted fuel cap on a fake However, for resale value it's going to be very low. You don't have any papers or boxes with it.

Here is a cut and paste from a cigarfamily.com post on this subject: How can you tell? Pay attention at the following details: 1. Bottom Markings: a) Dupont Mark (square): use a 10x loupe you should see the mark has good detail with the very small dupont word imprinted in the little square.

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Sellers do this to get around ebays keyword check. The Sound when the lighter is opened should be a pleasant lasting sound, in my experience the Ping sound dulls with use. The counterfeit ST Dupont makes an awful metallic 'cling' which differs greatly from a real ST Dupont ping sound. There is a screw holding a metal plate inside the top of the lid that can become loose. If you have a used ST Dupont its possible somebody has removed it to prevent it from ruining the sound of the lid when opened. If you hear a rattling when lifting lid then it could be this plate coming loose. All you need is a small flat head screw driver to tighten it.